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    Lightbulb FAQ: Why doesn't my quest count thing(s) I already built/see things in my stash

    [KNOWN ISSUE] Festival of Seasons items do not count towards any seasonal quests
    http://forums.lolapps.com/threads/36...easonal-quests

    Some quests are "have" and some quests are "collect"/"buy"/"build". Quest criteria must be completed AFTER you have received the quest. Just as trees you chopped last week, and monsters you killed last month don't count towards quests you receive today, quests to build or buy things do not count things built or purchased in the past.

    Some players would prefer that all quests be "have" quests, but other players dislike the "have" quests because they are complete before they have even seen them and make the game too easy.

    "Collect" quests are equally challenging for all levels of players. Have quests are either too easy for higher level players; or to be a challenge to higher level players the number would be so high the quest would be impossible for lower level players. Seasonal quests or limited time quests tend to be "collect" because they are meant to appeal to all levels of players.

    Another benefit of the collect quests is you can spend/use up these items and they aren't deducted from your total, unlike "have" quests. If a quest asks you to "have" 50 crystals every time you use some to build it is deducted from the total; so you have to pick between working on the quest and building your fair. "Collect" quests can be completed over a period of days or weeks without effecting regular game play. Of course you can chose to complete "collect" quests faster by changing your game play to get the needed item faster; for example you could focus on chopping your neighbours rocks or recharging their protectors instead of chopping their trees if you wanted to complete a crystal quest faster.

    New quests are added each week, and in general the batch should take about a week to complete. Not all quests should be easily completable in an hour.


    Quest Terminology
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    Have: At any point after you receive the quest have all of the items listed in possession at the same time. If it lists decorations, games, or buildings they must be on your fair, not in your stash to count. Materials such as ladybugs, crystals, etc will count if they are in your stash. If you use or sell items before completing the quest they will not count.

    Collect: From the time you receive the quest you must find, receive, or purchase these items. If you spend or sell these items they will not be removed from the quest total.

    Use: The same as "have" except when the quest completes the items listed will be removed from your inventory.

    Save: The same as collect.
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    Just a quick question on this point:
    What happens to things that are needed for specific quests that were received BEFORE you started the quest?
    I have 4 irises that were returned gifts from helping out others. They do not count for the Stocking the Garden quest I've just got.

    Can I ever use them or will they just sit in my inventory forever?

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    Irises, petunias, daffodils, ribbons, and RSVPs are building supplies the same as tree sap and ladybugs. Currently there are only a few attractions that require them, for irises in particular I believe it is just the Botannical Garden. However the garden theme is a permanent addition to the game so it is possible these supplies will be needed for other. For example acorns were released as part of the Medieval theme last fall but when the homes were added a few weeks ago they required acorns as well.

    However I have a feeling rose petals, which the quest said would only be required for that quest might never be used again. But you never know.

    Also remember: your stash is basically unlimited. Most players have building supplies from past seasons that are useless at this point. At some point the game may be changed so that you can trade or spend them. For right now they just hang around.
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    If they're like tree sap, shouldn't they count towards the quest then? I'm confused.

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    They don't count towards the quest because it's a 'Collect' quest. Collect quests require you to collect the items from the time the quest starts. Quests that say 'have' will use whatever is already in your inventory/on your fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn Starr View Post
    If they're like tree sap, shouldn't they count towards the quest then? I'm confused.
    No tree sap can either be a "have" or a "collect" quest requirement. But either way it is also used to build things once you have it in inventory.
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    OK, thanks for that. I think I've got it now.

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    If I may suggest: How about asking the developers if the script could read, "Collect xx new pine cones" or something along those line? This would clear up a lot of confusion and frustration for newer players.

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    Is there any chance of identifying which decorations and games will end up in a Quest?

    The reason I am asking is because when I first started to play, I built games and bought decorations etc... when I could afford them only to be asked further into the game to repeat what I had already done. I therefore learnt not to just start building new games as there was a possibility of being asked and with limited resources, to avoid the irritation of not being able to complete a build until I'd collected items again.

    However, for example, I purposely didn't build the epic Wedding Cathedral because I thought I would be asked in a Quest - I wasn't.

    Today I bought some decorations only to be asked in a quest. The same issue arises, especially at the start of the mission, because money is used up not appreciating you'll have to earn that money again to buy items already purchased.

    It would therefore be really helpful if a small icon could be designed to add to a corner of a picture (like you do with 'New' items) if it will become part of a quest.

    People could then decide whether they are happy to buy before the quest and have to repeat later.

    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire44 View Post
    Is there any chance of identifying which decorations and games will end up in a Quest?

    The reason I am asking is because when I first started to play, I built games and bought decorations etc... when I could afford them only to be asked further into the game to repeat what I had already done. I therefore learnt not to just start building new games as there was a possibility of being asked and with limited resources, to avoid the irritation of not being able to complete a build until I'd collected items again.

    However, for example, I purposely didn't build the epic Wedding Cathedral because I thought I would be asked in a Quest - I wasn't.

    Today I bought some decorations only to be asked in a quest. The same issue arises, especially at the start of the mission, because money is used up not appreciating you'll have to earn that money again to buy items already purchased.

    It would therefore be really helpful if a small icon could be designed to add to a corner of a picture (like you do with 'New' items) if it will become part of a quest.

    People could then decide whether they are happy to buy before the quest and have to repeat later.

    Many thanks
    I've passed this suggestion on to the developers. I think it's a fantastic idea and would prevent a lot of unhappiness. I think I'll add this to my list of "Things to bug them about regularly in hopes they'll get tired of hearing about it and implement it" hehe

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    Actually it looks like they've gone the other way. They locked all the easter items that were quest requirements until you got to that quest. Maybe that's just for seasonal things thouhg

    I dislike that a lot, sometimes things that are needed later for a quest are the best thing to build at a certain point, and I'd hate to see them all locked. Also there were easter things I would have bought right away, and couldn't. Also some people don't bother with quests, certainly at this point I don't really need the XP from them, and if there's no big reward at the end then why can't people chose to skip the quests AND build/buy what they want. The same is true for lower level players. They may really want to build a few of the items, but not focus their energy on the seasonal quests when they have others to do.
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    Thanks for looking into that for me - however, today i bought loads of egg hedges and Easter baskets only to be asked a little later to buy them in a quest so I've ended up having to stash the ones I had to buy. So although you say items are locked, some items are not, even for the seasonal ones.

    My problem at the moment is seeing some of the Easter games and not wanting to buy and build them because they might become a quest - when you say they are locked, do you just find this out when you click on it?

    I am focussing on getting my Vitalin well so any building has to be needed or not wasted. After that I've been set the Panther quest so that is going to take lots of wood too. However, I could be building some Easter games, if they are not going to be quested, to increase my level.

    There must be a better way!!
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    I suggested that they put a little 'Q!' on quest items. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire44 View Post
    Thanks for looking into that for me - however, today i bought loads of egg hedges and Easter baskets only to be asked a little later to buy them in a quest so I've ended up having to stash the ones I had to buy. So although you say items are locked, some items are not, even for the seasonal ones.

    My problem at the moment is seeing some of the Easter games and not wanting to buy and build them because they might become a quest - when you say they are locked, do you just find this out when you click on it?

    I am focussing on getting my Vitalin well so any building has to be needed or not wasted. After that I've been set the Panther quest so that is going to take lots of wood too. However, I could be building some Easter games, if they are not going to be quested, to increase my level.

    There must be a better way!!
    Some of them were like grayed out?.... of course now I can't get my game to open

    Apparently there are quests for ALL the easter games and buildings BUT they are all have quests. The deco quests are still "buy" though
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    I realise that - it's whether you buy decorations or build games/buildings before you are told to which is the bit that can be irritating - all the Easter games for me are I could buy and build now - nothing is greyed out so perhaps you've got a problem - I've been able to play on and off all day without there being a problem.

    Even if with a build which is mainly requests or falls from trees, there is an initial buying and using of wood - to use up say 500 woods to build a game which then doesn't count when it is quested means 500 wood, the energy and coins are in effect 'wasted' simply because you repeat it all.

    The space is also limited so there is little point in having say two Irish Chapels because you can't keep them both in the Fair as you run out of room. Even now I don't use my Irish Chapel - it was good for it's time but we've moved on.

    I won't chance building any Easter games until I've built my Well and Panther Den because I can't waste any wood. I've got my Well wood now - just having to balance my energy to build it - my wood will now have to be balanced for my Den and any quested builds.

    I wish that marsh mellow duck was available - I am tempted to buy it with cash but as I am unemployed I mustn't!!

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    Default Gad's Hill from my inventory doesn't count toward "have" quest?

    I just received the quest to "Have a completed Gad's Hill Place, so I pulled it out of my inventory and placed it in my fair, but it didn't count towards the quest. The quest doesn't say "build" or "buy" - shouldn't it count because it says "have" ??? I have one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirble View Post
    I just received the quest to "Have a completed Gad's Hill Place, so I pulled it out of my inventory and placed it in my fair, but it didn't count towards the quest. The quest doesn't say "build" or "buy" - shouldn't it count because it says "have" ??? I have one!
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    I bought and finished a quest twice and it will not accept it. What do i need to do?
    Last edited by eeswaim; 12-25-2011 at 02:14 AM. Reason: FORGOT TO SAY ONE QUEST I FINISHED WITH MY GOLD

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    Quote Originally Posted by eeswaim View Post
    I bought and finished a quest twice and it will not accept it. What do i need to do?
    What quest? You can't actually a buy a quest?
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