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    Hello.

    Will the flame blast knock out your Vitalin crystals? I've been wary to use them around my crystals, because I'm a little weird like that.

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    Yup, flame blast destroys all in it's path

    In case you're confused about any of the animals, hehe because it gets asked a lot:
    http://support.lolapps.com/entries/2...ravenwood-fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelia View Post
    Yup, flame blast destroys all in it's path

    In case you're confused about any of the animals, hehe because it gets asked a lot:
    http://support.lolapps.com/entries/2...ravenwood-fair
    I'm glad I waited and did not blast my crystals.

    As far as the link, these will make nice cut outs for popsicle stick puppets with my kiddo! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pesosgirl View Post
    I'm glad I waited and did not blast my crystals.

    As far as the link, these will make nice cut outs for popsicle stick puppets with my kiddo! Thanks!
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    Wow, usually when one reads a forum topic, one finds answers. This one - not so much. Although, I have a sneaking suspicion that I know the answer to my following problem, and that I have done the worst thing possible. I have only been playing for 3 days. But there are NO MORE vitalin crystals in my mine. I figured they were so important that I needed to get to them right away, and you know how newbies have such energy problems, so I targeted them first and dug specific pathways to them. I think I have just read above, that this was an innocent mistake, but a very BAD idea.

    If I have it clearly from above (which I don't), there is now NEVER a way for my mine to give me more than ONE vitalin gem, and only every HOW MANY hours?

    And it's REALLY unclear from above whether I'm supposed to totally obliterate that one gem, or leave one hack left? And am I supposed to leave one hack left in other people's mines for their vitalins, too?

    And am I going to be in trouble if I have also heavily targeted the red crystal thingies in my mine, and the blue crystal thingies?

    SHOULD I JUST DELETE THE GAME, REINSTALL AND START OVER? Is this even possible? (I only have three days invested in the game, but I put in 12 hours each day at least.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glynis View Post
    Wow, usually when one reads a forum topic, one finds answers. This one - not so much. Although, I have a sneaking suspicion that I know the answer to my following problem, and that I have done the worst thing possible. I have only been playing for 3 days. But there are NO MORE vitalin crystals in my mine. I figured they were so important that I needed to get to them right away, and you know how newbies have such energy problems, so I targeted them first and dug specific pathways to them. I think I have just read above, that this was an innocent mistake, but a very BAD idea.

    If I have it clearly from above (which I don't), there is now NEVER a way for my mine to give me more than ONE vitalin gem, and only every HOW MANY hours?

    And it's REALLY unclear from above whether I'm supposed to totally obliterate that one gem, or leave one hack left? And am I supposed to leave one hack left in other people's mines for their vitalins, too?

    And am I going to be in trouble if I have also heavily targeted the red crystal thingies in my mine, and the blue crystal thingies?

    SHOULD I JUST DELETE THE GAME, REINSTALL AND START OVER? Is this even possible? (I only have three days invested in the game, but I put in 12 hours each day at least.)
    Sorry, that this is unclear! It's a bit of a muddle really.

    But first, a small explanation. There are vitalin crystals and vitalin gems. Vitalin Crystals are the rocks that grow in your mine, vitalin gems are a specific "building material". No one ever gets a vitalin gem more often than once every 4 hours; and only once you harvest one does the count down for the next begin. When it comes to getting vitalin gems it doesn't matter how many vitalin crystals you or your neighbours have, you're only going to get one each time the counter reaches zero. You can check the timer by leaving your mouse cursor over any vitalin crystal in the game, keep in mind that when it says that it is ready and a gem lies within it doesn't mean that specific rock it means only one, not matter how many vitalin crystals you have access to. If a gem is not ready and you chop a vitalin crystal there's a chance it will drop a bucket of vitalin; which are also useful of course.

    LOLapps *tells me* that if you have gotten rid of all your vitalin crystal rocks you will only have one at a time after that, in practice I don't find that to actually be true. I think that if you do not have enough of the mine cleared to have normal growth you are guaranteed to get one vitalin gem if you have none remaining; but once you have cleared enough space to get regular regrowth a small percent will be vitalin gems. That "one" that you are guaranteed will be a 4 chop crystal, which is enough for 16 hours. However once you chop it completely it could be up to 8 hours until the next regrowth cycle triggers a new one. However: 1) you can use your neighbour's vitalin crystals (Huginn has some left out for fans) 2) You should sleep once in awhile!

    I think partially chopped vitalin crystals aren't regenerating so there's no point in leaving them as a "1 chop stump"; but it has been changed back and forth so many times I'm really not sure.

    Your neighbours rocks: chop away! When you chop their rocks it doesn't "save"; the rocks will still be there for them (otherwise Huginn wouldn't have any left!). If you repair their machine, that will save them an energy but it won't update until they log in (so if you leave and come back before them you will see the same machine as needing repair but don't worry you have helped them even if you can't see it). The same goes for recharging protectors. If you kill a monster it doesn't delete the monster from their mine but if you are chopping and release a monster it will stay there until they kill it. (If you've ever been playing and a monster appears where you aren't chopping that is likely what happened, someone visited and freed it!)

    The red crystals (Flame crystal rocks) drop flame crystals; it doesn't matter when you chop them they drop the same thing and it will just go into your inventory to be used when you need it. Crystal rocks (which are white but drop the purple crystals) it also doesn't matter when you chop them. When you clear enough of your mine that rocks are growing back a percentage will be these special rocks, and mushroom rocks as well.

    You can't delete the game and start over, if you delete the game LOLapps saves your account in case you change your mind. In rare cases they will reset a game when asked.

    I hope I've answered all your questions! If not let me know.
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    Thanks VERY much, Cordelia.
    This makes things almost vitalin crystal clear. (Sorry, that's my best joke on no sleep.)
    I will be saving this info to pass on to other newbies. I've started a folder already.
    And you're right, perhaps I should sleep - maybe every other day, at least. LOL

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    Firstly, I would like to say congratulations on a wonderful game that I am really enjoying playing. One of the great aspects of Ravenwood is being able to "buy" energy with "food" or receive energy from friends, which is vastly different from most other Facebook games where we frustratingly have to wait for more energy/health etc. I also love the abundance of new and seasonal quests.
    My one and only bugbear regards Vitalin Gems, trying to complete Mine quests that require numerous Vitalin Gems is extremely frustrating and very boring. Quests that ask for 12, sometimes 24 Vitalin Gems take a ridiculous amount of time to complete (unless, of course, we pay real money). Is there any way this issue could be addressed in some way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallysalem View Post
    Firstly, I would like to say congratulations on a wonderful game that I am really enjoying playing. One of the great aspects of Ravenwood is being able to "buy" energy with "food" or receive energy from friends, which is vastly different from most other Facebook games where we frustratingly have to wait for more energy/health etc. I also love the abundance of new and seasonal quests.
    My one and only bugbear regards Vitalin Gems, trying to complete Mine quests that require numerous Vitalin Gems is extremely frustrating and very boring. Quests that ask for 12, sometimes 24 Vitalin Gems take a ridiculous amount of time to complete (unless, of course, we pay real money). Is there any way this issue could be addressed in some way?
    The vitalin gems were originally one every 24 hours so, ya know, this is how it was addressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachy18 View Post
    The vitalin gems were originally one every 24 hours so, ya know, this is how it was addressed
    Also you can collect them even when you do not have a quest for them
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    The vitalin gems were originally one every 24 hours so, ya know, this is how it was addressed

    Still, when a quest asks for 24 Vitalin Gems it can take more than a week to complete, ya know.

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    Yes, but the game isn't meant to be finished that quickly because it would just be boring that way :p
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    Yes, but the game isn't meant to be finished that quickly because it would just be boring that way :p

    I agree, I don't play to simply finish the game quickly, I do however think that maybe the quests that require Vitalin Gems could be interspersed with quests that do not require Vitalin Gems. This would give those of us who do not wish to pay money, time to save up the Gems in readiness for the next quest.

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    Well there's the a couple hundred non-ruins quests in the mine.

    The quests in just the story chain that need vitalin gems are: 4, 6, 11, 15, 24, 38, 41, 43, 44, 51, 52, 57, 80 Signs and Portents: 12, 13

    So 13/82 ruin quests require vitalin gems, unless I missed a few also I seem to remember a coulple of "have" quests being followed by "use" quests which used what you had just gathered. And 2/13 portent quests need vitalin gems. It looks relatively distrubted though there are a few that are two in a row.
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    I'm feeling slightly "got at". I was merely expressing an opinion and giving feedback on my experience of playing Ravenwood. If you refer back to my original post you will see that I am enjoying playing the game, I am simply finding waiting for four hours to collect a Gem a little frustrating. Thats all.

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    Sorry if you're feeling attacked, but the vitalin gem issue was kind of discussed to death when the mine was first released. The devs and players at the time finally found a method that worked for everyone, and we're just trying to explain to you why both sides felt that the four hour wait was reasonable. It's also why Lolapps is unlikely to implement your suggestion, in spite of the fact that they are exceptionally good at listening and responding to players complaints.
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    You said you'd like quests interspersing the vitalin gem quests, so I pointed out that there are some. If there were quests that were set up to artificially take up as much time as it takes to gather vitalin gems for the next quest:
    1) You'd still have to wait, though possibly in smaller chunks of time
    2) Many people wouldn't gather gems in that time and then be angry that they have to wait even longer
    3) There'd be no incentive for people who do spend money to buy vitalin gems. It's a free game, yes, but there has to be some incentive for some people to spend money once in a while.

    Most players that start the mine now that all the ruin quests are there, as well as many other quests find the balance is there (Unless they get stuck because they miss a quest that requires them to go to the fair). If this more players have an issue with it again I suppose there's a chance things would be changed again, thanks for your feedback.
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    I only have a few of them when I started mining. They have never grown back. I've been out of them completely for a couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandra Rivera View Post
    I only have a few of them when I started mining. They have never grown back. I've been out of them completely for a couple of days.
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    I have been harvesting one crystal every 4 days for several days and I never seem to have more than one in stock. When I check my storage and have 1 and then harvest one and check again I still only have one. Is there something I can do to fix this? I am not going to get anywhere with this game if I cannot figure this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFaerieBubbles View Post
    I have been harvesting one crystal every 4 days for several days and I never seem to have more than one in stock. When I check my storage and have 1 and then harvest one and check again I still only have one. Is there something I can do to fix this? I am not going to get anywhere with this game if I cannot figure this out.

    Thanks.
    Why are you waiting 4 days between harvesting them?

    Is it possible they are being used by quests?
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    This was going to be a question, but then I figured it out, so just thought I'd post here in case it helps someone else.

    I'm on the Port-Tune Teller quest, which requires vitalin gems...so I've been checking my mine for two (maybe three, I've lost track) days, waiting for the vitalin gem to magically appear. I was coming here to ask why it wasn't showing up, read through this thread, went back to check again, then it occurred to me that maybe it was hiding behind something. Moved the Mole King's Throne, and there it was.

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